Colmcille Climbers

Peter Cooper - 24/06/2010
Hi Rodney, yep it will be right for next guide. Spent a resonable amount of time working out where the lines actually went. I think the current topo was maybe a general guide to where they went, you still needed to be consulting the current guide to get the right lines. The rock-up/over on OF looks rather exciting. Hope you liked the nice clean top ledge. Was bored the other winter.

Rodders - 24/06/2010
Nice one Pete. I had a look at your line. I can see clearly where the traverse goes but I can still only see two possible ways up, either the finish to RP or OF, which are very close together. Neither of these would be 3/4 across. Both of these would be 1/2 way at most. Anything else further left looks a lot harder than 5b and further right would make this route a lot less than 8m. Is there any chance you can update the topo to clarify where this goes? Thanks, Rodney.

Rodders - 19/06/2010
Thanks Pete. Just noticing though that the topo on here for FB wall is incorrect. Line F is actually RP. This goes up the crack, out left a bit then straight upish. OF is left of this, between this and zodiac. I haven't done OF but I believe it moves in off the block into the good hold on RP (only this time with your right hand) and up. OF has also, I believe, been done directly from the ground, but haveing looked at this briefly this would surely warrant at least E5(might be worth confirming with Grimer). Will comment more on your line if I get on it but just pointing out the topo is wrong in case your basing the guide or any new routes on it. This wee wall is magic so its important the new guide gets the route details correct as theres not many with knowledge of these lines.Thanks Rodney.

Peter Cooper - 16/06/2010
The 5c finish is likely grade of a suggested alternative finish: which I didn't climb. The traverse ends below a slight step in the top of the headwall, about 3/4 way along. Let me know how you get on and make any comments you feel necessary. I felt it was harder than it looked. But you have youth and ability (trying to erode excuses for you, incase you do find it challenging)!

Rodders - 11/06/2010
Hi Pete hope you're well. Haven't actually tried this, but can you confirm where this line actually goes upwards to finish? From my memory of finbarr wall anything right of the other fish finish would be the finish to RP. i.e there's maybe a meter or less between the finish to the 2 routes? in fact they pretty much intersect at 1 point( at the good hold, I think!). Can you also confirm if you actually did the 5c "OF" finish or if this is just a suggestion? Sorry to ask, but I might give this a go sometime but am not 100% sure from your discription where this line(s) finishes. Or perhaps maybe grimer might come on here and tell me I'm talking rubbish!! Thanks, Rodney.